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Radio Popper

Radio Popper is the new kid on the block when it comes to wireless radio strobe triggers. In fact, they are so new you can't even buy the product just yet. But, when you can, the promise the difference will worth the wait. And I, for one, believe them.

There are basically two product types Radio Popper is offering. The first provides wireless TTL flash. Yes, you probably already have this if you have modern equipment and mated flashes. However, you don't have it like this. With the exception of 1 or 2 very expensive 3rd party options, to my knowledge, all of the big names in camera technology handle wireless TTL flash using IR. This works great if all of your flashes are close by and you have a line of sight to each of them. When you don't, or if things change, this fails drastically. Radio Popper is changing that. You'll still need your modern equipment and mated flashes. Radio Popper will sit in between your camera and those flashes and retransmit those IR signals over RF. This means that, suddenly, they'll work through walls, behind your subjects, when not visible to the camera, and from very far away — up to 500 feet away. To my knowledge there is currently no other product that does this in this way and, when considering all options, no product that does this in such an inexpensive way. The cost is $175-$225 per transmitter or receiver. You'll need one transmitter for the camera and a receiver for every flash you intend to use.

The second product being offered by Radio Popper has been on the market for quite some time. Radio Popper is just doing it cheaper and better. For photographers looking for wireless flash triggers who don't need the TTL features, there have been three options on the market before now.

First, the expensive PocketWizard. They can fire both strobes and camera, work from a great distance, and fire every time. These are standard equipment for many photographers. They run $180-$300 per transmitter or receiver.

Second, is the dirt cheap eBay and Gadget Infinity Radio Slaves. They fire strobes, work for about 300-500 feet, and fire about 80-90% of the time depending on closeness and batteries. These are standard equipment for most amateur photographers and those who aren't willing to plunk down the PocketWizard cash. They run $15-$25 per transmitter or receiver.

Third, is the middle ground. Lots of manufacturers have made products ranging from $50-$150 per transmitter or receiver that falls somewhere in between the functionality and the reliability of the above two options. I know of very few people actually using them, however.

Piggybacking off the requirements and research for the Wireless TTL model above, Radio Popper will be offering a non TTL variety capable of a 2000 ft range and promising much fewer misses than that "eBay Radio Slaves" for $25 per transmitter or receiver. With this, the usability, affordability, and reliability of this product will have all jumped leaps and bounds.

Finally, even if you aren't a fan of wireless TTL, the wireless TTL version will be capable of syncing at very high shutter speeds which means that overpowering the sun just got a lot more possible.

Products are slated for release in the Summer of 2008. I'm counting the days.

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  • I don't think the high speed sync option will help to overpower the sun, since most hotshoe flashes that I know of drop drastically in power once you enable HSS (I've found it's about equivalent to one stop loss for every increased stop in shutter speed, so it pretty much balances out when trying to overpower the ambient). One nice thing about it is that we won't have to shoot at f/16 or /f22 with wireless flash in the sun anymore. You could always use two or more flashes with Radio Poppers for more sun-killing power though (and this should be much more feasible with the Radio Poppers since it's tough enough to get just one IR flash to fire in bright sun).
  • That's precisely what I mean. Before now, the only way to overpower
    the sun was to shoot at f/16 of f/22 and crank your flash output as
    high as it would go. With Radio Poppers a shot in the same ambient
    lighting conditions can be made at f/2.8 or f/4 and with a lot loss
    power required.

    You can look at David Hobby's test photo
    (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31454864@N00/2339654950/) taken in
    daylight and from a reasonable distance to see just how far beyond the
    sunlight we can get our strobes and from what great distance using
    this new product. And, as you indicated, even without the distance
    issue, getting and IR based trigger to take in bright sun can be
    difficult. This will eliminate much of that issue.

    On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Disqus
  • Sorry, I don't think I was 100% clear. There's no real gain in power when switching to high speed sync. If you're shooting at f/2.8 in the sun, then you'll need to compensate by increasing your shutter speed to about 1/8000 which will cut the power of the flash output by about 5 stops due to the strobe action of HSS mode (and in effect, balances with the much wider aperture). This won't help you overpower the sun, but it does give you many more options in the available apertures you can use.

    As for David's photo, the flash is only about 1-2 feet away from the subject and at that distance it's very easy to overpower the sun. Sorry, I hope this doesn't sound argumentative, I just don't want people to get the wrong impression of what is possible with the RPs and be disappointed.
  • I understand what you're saying. And you're correct, of course. These RPs are not making the flash any more powerful. But, by allowing a faster shutter speed it can help to make the sun less powerful.


    (Sent via Blackberry)
  • That's true, but if you use a faster shutter speed, you'll need to open up the aperture to compensate for the light loss of using the HSS mode which balances everything out. If you keep the aperture stopped down and also increase your shutter speed, the sky will indeed get darker but the flash output will be equally lower since you lose about a stop of flash power for every stop of shutter speed you go beyond the camera's x-sync.

    I wish it didn't work this way since I'd love to be able to overpower the sun from a distance with a single speedlight, but the only way to do this is to use more flashes or use a camera with an electronic shutter that's capable of syncing at higher speeds without forcing the flash to go into HSS mode (my Canon G9 point-n-shoot can sync up to about 1/640 or 1/800 when using a radio trigger, although it's not 100% reliable). Of course, you can still overpower the sun if you're lighting a small area from a close distance and zoom the flash head to 105mm (or even use one of those Better Beamer things), but lighting a large group from a distance requires different equipment. Maybe now with the RadioPoppers, it will be possible to use two zoomed HSS flashes to light up a large group with one on either side of the camera. This would be pretty much impossible in bright light with the IR/light pulse slave system.
  • I guess i'm not fully understanding the aspect where the faster shutter speed leads to reduced flash output. I'll do some reading tonight and maybe I'll understand your point better.

    Thank you for the information.

    (Sent via Blackberry)
  • Sorry for not being clear. Here's a good article on HSS that explains it better and in much more detail: http://www.rpphoto.com/howto/view.asp?articleID=1026
  • Thank you!

    The site you referenced, as well as the guide number table on the back
    of Sigma EF-500 DG Super helped a lot.

    For those that would rather not go find this information, I've tried to
    lay it all out here: http://revjim.net/2008/03/21/high-speed-sync-auto-fp/
  • vaxocentric
    Oh yeah! I saw those featured on Strobist and I can't wait to get my hands on some. Very cool gadget!
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