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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://revjim.net/2008/04/04/seeking-stark-raving-lunatics/comment-page-1/#comment-143369</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think a FAN is a difficult thing to find. It requires a shift in mindset that really, I even haven&#039;t achieved for myself. I trade services with my landlady, because it&#039;s convenient, but I haven&#039;t gotten needled myself in over a year. I got into it to begin with because I seriously thought I was going out of my mind, or I&#039;d never have considered paying for it. (And while intellectually I would find it interesting, if I had that much of a nutcase in my office, I&#039;d find it more drama than I wanted even on a professional level.) And photography is just something I rarely think about.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some people talk about me a lot, and some people actually get me business. I haven&#039;t quite figured out what makes the difference. I suspect it&#039;s the circle of wealth, which again, not exactly my social net. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think a FAN is a difficult thing to find. It requires a shift in mindset that really, I even haven&#39;t achieved for myself. I trade services with my landlady, because it&#39;s convenient, but I haven&#39;t gotten needled myself in over a year. I got into it to begin with because I seriously thought I was going out of my mind, or I&#39;d never have considered paying for it. (And while intellectually I would find it interesting, if I had that much of a nutcase in my office, I&#39;d find it more drama than I wanted even on a professional level.) And photography is just something I rarely think about.</p>
<p>Some people talk about me a lot, and some people actually get me business. I haven&#39;t quite figured out what makes the difference. I suspect it&#39;s the circle of wealth, which again, not exactly my social net. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://revjim.net/2008/04/04/seeking-stark-raving-lunatics/comment-page-1/#comment-143371</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link. I&#039;ll intend to dig deeper into it this weekend.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And you&#039;re right. It&#039;s about a niche. One of the best ways to earn the&lt;br&gt;True Fans that Kelly mentions is to specialize in something. That&#039;s&lt;br&gt;what draws the fans in the first place.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If we use the music analogy again: a musician that does folk one song,&lt;br&gt;bluegrass the next, then heavy metal, followed by a techno song isn&#039;t&lt;br&gt;going to do very well (unless content ties them together, i.e.&lt;br&gt;political, humor, nerdy, etc). This will fly (and bring more awe to&lt;br&gt;your fans) once your famous. But not in the beginning.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Part of my trouble is that I am varied. I need a niche. It&#039;s okay to&lt;br&gt;experiment now and again, or to do so in some other place, but I need&lt;br&gt;one niche to focus my time and energy on and gear my advertising and&lt;br&gt;marketing efforts in that direction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve got some soul searching to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link. I&#39;ll intend to dig deeper into it this weekend.</p>
<p>And you&#39;re right. It&#39;s about a niche. One of the best ways to earn the<br />True Fans that Kelly mentions is to specialize in something. That&#39;s<br />what draws the fans in the first place.</p>
<p>If we use the music analogy again: a musician that does folk one song,<br />bluegrass the next, then heavy metal, followed by a techno song isn&#39;t<br />going to do very well (unless content ties them together, i.e.<br />political, humor, nerdy, etc). This will fly (and bring more awe to<br />your fans) once your famous. But not in the beginning.</p>
<p>Part of my trouble is that I am varied. I need a niche. It&#39;s okay to<br />experiment now and again, or to do so in some other place, but I need<br />one niche to focus my time and energy on and gear my advertising and<br />marketing efforts in that direction.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve got some soul searching to do.</p>
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		<title>By: joiseyguy</title>
		<link>http://revjim.net/2008/04/04/seeking-stark-raving-lunatics/comment-page-1/#comment-143370</link>
		<dc:creator>joiseyguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very hard to keep the &#039;art&#039; separated from the &#039;business&#039;. The business end of it is &lt;b&gt;marketing.&lt;/b&gt; No artist, no business can thrive or grow without good marketing.  &lt;br&gt;I like Kelly&#039;s approach but patronage is very old school. Today you need a good marketing plan and the best marketing plans focus on niches. Wegmen has his dogs, Geddes has her kids in costumes. What&#039;s your niche? &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dongiannatti.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Giannatti &lt;/a&gt;covers a lot of photography marketing ideas on his blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://wizwow.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wizwow.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s very hard to keep the &#39;art&#39; separated from the &#39;business&#39;. The business end of it is <b>marketing.</b> No artist, no business can thrive or grow without good marketing.  <br />I like Kelly&#39;s approach but patronage is very old school. Today you need a good marketing plan and the best marketing plans focus on niches. Wegmen has his dogs, Geddes has her kids in costumes. What&#39;s your niche? <br /><a href="http://www.dongiannatti.com/" rel="nofollow">Giannatti </a>covers a lot of photography marketing ideas on his blog: <a href="http://wizwow.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://wizwow.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha. Yeah. I didn&#039;t expect much BUSINESS, really, from friends. But I&lt;br&gt;did expect more word of mouth. I guess I expected them to be FANS.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have presented your services to at least 10 different people that I&lt;br&gt;can remember. I pimp Jonathan and my parents whenever I feel it&#039;s a&lt;br&gt;good fit. I&#039;ve intended to make an appointment with you (and email you&lt;br&gt;about something else) for EVER now... but I keep running out of time&lt;br&gt;(trying to do it on a work day to avoid having to drive out twice). I&lt;br&gt;mention Soul Glow any time anyone talks about needing a band for&lt;br&gt;something. Jess got Rob&#039;s Lawn Care company a job up at the bank she&lt;br&gt;works at. It&#039;s just the way I am.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess I expect others to act as I would.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;This photographer I know took an awesome photo of a barn. I bet you&#039;d&lt;br&gt;like it.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;You look great! You should talk to my friend about getting some&lt;br&gt;photos done. He&#039;s awesome and would certainly work with you for cheap&lt;br&gt;if not free.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Do you have any photos of your new baby yet? No? You should see&lt;br&gt;Daniel James. This guy is awesome!&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think I expected too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha. Yeah. I didn&#39;t expect much BUSINESS, really, from friends. But I<br />did expect more word of mouth. I guess I expected them to be FANS.</p>
<p>I have presented your services to at least 10 different people that I<br />can remember. I pimp Jonathan and my parents whenever I feel it&#39;s a<br />good fit. I&#39;ve intended to make an appointment with you (and email you<br />about something else) for EVER now&#8230; but I keep running out of time<br />(trying to do it on a work day to avoid having to drive out twice). I<br />mention Soul Glow any time anyone talks about needing a band for<br />something. Jess got Rob&#39;s Lawn Care company a job up at the bank she<br />works at. It&#39;s just the way I am.</p>
<p>I guess I expect others to act as I would.</p>
<p>&#8220;This photographer I know took an awesome photo of a barn. I bet you&#39;d<br />like it.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You look great! You should talk to my friend about getting some<br />photos done. He&#39;s awesome and would certainly work with you for cheap<br />if not free.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you have any photos of your new baby yet? No? You should see<br />Daniel James. This guy is awesome!&#8221;</p>
<p>I think I expected too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://revjim.net/2008/04/04/seeking-stark-raving-lunatics/comment-page-1/#comment-134663</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think a FAN is a difficult thing to find. It requires a shift in mindset that really, I even haven&#039;t achieved for myself. I trade services with my landlady, because it&#039;s convenient, but I haven&#039;t gotten needled myself in over a year. I got into it to begin with because I seriously thought I was going out of my mind, or I&#039;d never have considered paying for it. (And while intellectually I would find it interesting, if I had that much of a nutcase in my office, I&#039;d find it more drama than I wanted even on a professional level.) And photography is just something I rarely think about.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some people talk about me a lot, and some people actually get me business. I haven&#039;t quite figured out what makes the difference. I suspect it&#039;s the circle of wealth, which again, not exactly my social net. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think a FAN is a difficult thing to find. It requires a shift in mindset that really, I even haven&#39;t achieved for myself. I trade services with my landlady, because it&#39;s convenient, but I haven&#39;t gotten needled myself in over a year. I got into it to begin with because I seriously thought I was going out of my mind, or I&#39;d never have considered paying for it. (And while intellectually I would find it interesting, if I had that much of a nutcase in my office, I&#39;d find it more drama than I wanted even on a professional level.) And photography is just something I rarely think about.</p>
<p>Some people talk about me a lot, and some people actually get me business. I haven&#39;t quite figured out what makes the difference. I suspect it&#39;s the circle of wealth, which again, not exactly my social net. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link. I&#039;ll intend to dig deeper into it this weekend.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And you&#039;re right. It&#039;s about a niche. One of the best ways to earn the&lt;br&gt;True Fans that Kelly mentions is to specialize in something. That&#039;s&lt;br&gt;what draws the fans in the first place.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If we use the music analogy again: a musician that does folk one song,&lt;br&gt;bluegrass the next, then heavy metal, followed by a techno song isn&#039;t&lt;br&gt;going to do very well (unless content ties them together, i.e.&lt;br&gt;political, humor, nerdy, etc). This will fly (and bring more awe to&lt;br&gt;your fans) once your famous. But not in the beginning.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Part of my trouble is that I am varied. I need a niche. It&#039;s okay to&lt;br&gt;experiment now and again, or to do so in some other place, but I need&lt;br&gt;one niche to focus my time and energy on and gear my advertising and&lt;br&gt;marketing efforts in that direction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve got some soul searching to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link. I&#39;ll intend to dig deeper into it this weekend.</p>
<p>And you&#39;re right. It&#39;s about a niche. One of the best ways to earn the<br />True Fans that Kelly mentions is to specialize in something. That&#39;s<br />what draws the fans in the first place.</p>
<p>If we use the music analogy again: a musician that does folk one song,<br />bluegrass the next, then heavy metal, followed by a techno song isn&#39;t<br />going to do very well (unless content ties them together, i.e.<br />political, humor, nerdy, etc). This will fly (and bring more awe to<br />your fans) once your famous. But not in the beginning.</p>
<p>Part of my trouble is that I am varied. I need a niche. It&#39;s okay to<br />experiment now and again, or to do so in some other place, but I need<br />one niche to focus my time and energy on and gear my advertising and<br />marketing efforts in that direction.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve got some soul searching to do.</p>
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		<title>By: joiseyguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>joiseyguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very hard to keep the &#039;art&#039; separated from the &#039;business&#039;. The business end of it is &lt;b&gt;marketing.&lt;/b&gt; No artist, no business can thrive or grow without good marketing.  &lt;br&gt;I like Kelly&#039;s approach but patronage is very old school. Today you need a good marketing plan and the best marketing plans focus on niches. Wegmen has his dogs, Geddes has her kids in costumes. What&#039;s your niche? &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dongiannatti.com/&quot;&gt;Giannatti &lt;/a&gt;covers a lot of photography marketing ideas on his blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://wizwow.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;http://wizwow.blogspot.com/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s very hard to keep the &#39;art&#39; separated from the &#39;business&#39;. The business end of it is <b>marketing.</b> No artist, no business can thrive or grow without good marketing.  <br />I like Kelly&#39;s approach but patronage is very old school. Today you need a good marketing plan and the best marketing plans focus on niches. Wegmen has his dogs, Geddes has her kids in costumes. What&#39;s your niche? <br /><a href="http://www.dongiannatti.com/">Giannatti </a>covers a lot of photography marketing ideas on his blog: <a href="http://wizwow.blogspot.com/">http://wizwow.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha. Yeah. I didn&#039;t expect much BUSINESS, really, from friends. But I&lt;br&gt;did expect more word of mouth. I guess I expected them to be FANS.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have presented your services to at least 10 different people that I&lt;br&gt;can remember. I pimp Jonathan and my parents whenever I feel it&#039;s a&lt;br&gt;good fit. I&#039;ve intended to make an appointment with you (and email you&lt;br&gt;about something else) for EVER now... but I keep running out of time&lt;br&gt;(trying to do it on a work day to avoid having to drive out twice). I&lt;br&gt;mention Soul Glow any time anyone talks about needing a band for&lt;br&gt;something. Jess got Rob&#039;s Lawn Care company a job up at the bank she&lt;br&gt;works at. It&#039;s just the way I am.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess I expect others to act as I would.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;This photographer I know took an awesome photo of a barn. I bet you&#039;d&lt;br&gt;like it.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;You look great! You should talk to my friend about getting some&lt;br&gt;photos done. He&#039;s awesome and would certainly work with you for cheap&lt;br&gt;if not free.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Do you have any photos of your new baby yet? No? You should see&lt;br&gt;Daniel James. This guy is awesome!&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think I expected too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha. Yeah. I didn&#39;t expect much BUSINESS, really, from friends. But I<br />did expect more word of mouth. I guess I expected them to be FANS.</p>
<p>I have presented your services to at least 10 different people that I<br />can remember. I pimp Jonathan and my parents whenever I feel it&#39;s a<br />good fit. I&#39;ve intended to make an appointment with you (and email you<br />about something else) for EVER now&#8230; but I keep running out of time<br />(trying to do it on a work day to avoid having to drive out twice). I<br />mention Soul Glow any time anyone talks about needing a band for<br />something. Jess got Rob&#39;s Lawn Care company a job up at the bank she<br />works at. It&#39;s just the way I am.</p>
<p>I guess I expect others to act as I would.</p>
<p>&#8220;This photographer I know took an awesome photo of a barn. I bet you&#39;d<br />like it.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You look great! You should talk to my friend about getting some<br />photos done. He&#39;s awesome and would certainly work with you for cheap<br />if not free.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you have any photos of your new baby yet? No? You should see<br />Daniel James. This guy is awesome!&#8221;</p>
<p>I think I expected too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are in a similar boat. How do we make people NEED a luxury item? In my field, people would rather use OTC&#039;s than schedule a doctor&#039;s appointment that&#039;s a $10 copay for them, how do I make them pay $60 for an hour of my time? The numbers are about right; 1000 translates into 50 solidly booked weeks of 4 patients a day for me. I&#039;d still have to be pretty stingy for Christmas presents, but that would pay my rent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Friends are great, but to count on them to give you any sort of business at all is about the cutest thing I&#039;ve heard all week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are in a similar boat. How do we make people NEED a luxury item? In my field, people would rather use OTC&#39;s than schedule a doctor&#39;s appointment that&#39;s a $10 copay for them, how do I make them pay $60 for an hour of my time? The numbers are about right; 1000 translates into 50 solidly booked weeks of 4 patients a day for me. I&#39;d still have to be pretty stingy for Christmas presents, but that would pay my rent.</p>
<p>Friends are great, but to count on them to give you any sort of business at all is about the cutest thing I&#39;ve heard all week.</p>
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