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a common goal

My dream is to live in — for lack of a better term — a commune. A group of 10-50 people (adults, kids, animals, etc) living on the same property, occupying the same communal spaces, and spending at least part of their energy working toward a common goal. Something similar in feel to La Selva. But, I also realize that finding a like minded commune to join or finding a property and financial means to start my own may be far off. So, in the mean time, I’m seeking what has recently been dubbed the “mini-commune”.

My vision of the Mini-Commune is between 2 and 5 families (depending on the size of those families and the size of the dwelling) sharing a single, larger house. Ideally, the house would have lots of smaller rooms to be used as bedrooms as well as several larger rooms to be used as communal living spaces. Certainly some properties will lend themselves better to this than others but, as long as it’s large enough, almost anything can be made to work.

The benefits of even the mini-commune are quite impressive.

First, there’s the sheer financial aspect of it all. Based on a house I’ve been able to find in the area and average expenses, with even 3 families living together the monthly cost would be around $575/family. When you factor in group meals (less eating out), bulk purchases, and reduced needs for travel, you save even more. Consider the fact that, under this arrangement, it might be possible to get rid of as many as half of the vehicles owned by the group, there’s even more savings. Once you bundle in the social aspects of always having a “family” of people around to lend a helping hand, to make tedious tasks more enjoyable, to provide comfort, and to encourage it, the cons seem entirely manageable.

The cons, of course, having to share a space with other people. If people are inconsiderate, rude, sloppy, or selfish, sharing a space with them can be difficult if not impossible. Obviously, this would require appropriately minded people. I think it’s very important to select fellow commune (or mini-commune) members based on their nature and their lifestyle and how close to your own that those things are more so than how well your interests mesh with theirs or how close of friends you may be now. As you get deeper into the communal unit, more cons can arise, like not having certain amenities (cars, showers, etc) available to you the very second that you want them. It is very much about personal sacrifice in order to increase the benefits for all, including yourself. However, in an ideal commune, these issues will be worked out as a matter of routine. In the fully fledged commune, one could alter the dwelling to more closely match the needs of those that lived there. In this mini-commune one would have to be willing to adapt to what was available.

The fully fledged commune would, of course, be able to grow vegetables, raise a garden, and contribute space to the greater community as well. These things would only be possible in much smaller doses in a mini-commune.

I haven’t fully fleshed out where I’d like to live. But, my tentative selections are Denton, Coppell, Western Dallas (as long as we have home schoolers), and “The Sticks”. If you’re interested — truly interested — in joining let me know. And, if you have any advice (other than, simply, “COMMUNES SUCK”) I’d love to hear it.

  • http://twitter.com/acugrrl Laura Yoo

    You know I've always been on board for this. The Cliff has some fantastic high schools and the “Mommy mafia” for early childhood, but I am not sure about how things are in between. And I bet the property is here, if not in turnkey condition.

  • http://revjim.net/ Daniel

    You know, I had no idea that the high school in The Cliff were so
    good. For a Mini-Commune, proximity to an urban center (like Dallas)
    is a distinct advantage. I think I'm going to have to do a little more
    research and then, likely, add The Cliff to the short list of good
    places to consider for this.

  • http://revjim.net/ Daniel

    And WOW, this “Mommy Mafia” is quite cool indeed!

  • lys1123

    In theory, I am very interested. I have been looking for options to have my children get more quality time (and get homeschooling) pretty much since I became a Dad. I think this environment would provide that in spades.

    In practice I, like you apparently, don't see it being feasible in the immediate future. I certainly wouldn't mind working towards something like this though.

  • http://revjim.net/ Daniel

    If I ever manage to make it happen outside of the small scale, you'll be in. :)

  • http://twitter.com/mojoquix amanda

    My best friends here in Austin have actually lived in a “mini-commune” of sorts for about 15 years. They call themselves the Council of Five. It was sort of accidental. Basically, my friend J.P. has always been well-off and generous (he comes from some money and has always worked very hard while being very frugal). He went to Rice with several of the others. He got a job in Austin during the tech boom and bought a large house as an investment. He invited his friends to come live with him to help split expenses, and eventually a few of his friends from Rice (a couple of single people and a married couple with a young child) came to live in J.P.'s house. They all did well during the tech boom and built a custom house in Central Austin. The custom house has two sides, each with its own kitchen, small living area, and some bedrooms. The sides share a great room. The married couple now has 4 children, so they have one side. Another one of the single people (J.P.'s best friend) married and had two kids. That family lives on the other side along with J.P. and the other single folks (the original single folks moved out when they got married, so various other friends and family members have moved into the other side). They don't share cars and the sides don't usually eat meals together. They spend a lot of time together, though, and help each other out. They also send out a group Christmas card every year. They're all geeks, so they're in it for efficiency.

    J.P. is a lot of the reason this arrangement remains, I think. It's a mechanism through which J.P. can give to his friends — he lives in a small room but foots a portion of everyone else's expenses. J.P. has always been single and is inclined to remain that way, and helping his friends live easier lives is a big goal of his. He's a sickly guy (has several autoimmune disorders), so I think that's another reason he's created a way to always have his friends around him.

    I don't know if their arrangement is necessarily financially superior. They invited Stephen and me to move in at some point, but it would have cost basically the same as it costs for us to live where we do now, so we decided it wasn't worth giving up the privacy, etc. (though we are over there most Friday nights). We live three blocks away from them, but they live in a new, eco-friendly custom-built home and we live in an old duplex without central air.

  • http://revjim.net/ Daniel

    I've never had the means to be a Philanthropist. But I love the idea
    of being able to build something that people I love and care about can
    not only enjoy for themselves, but pass down to their kids, friends,
    and family to be enjoyed for more years than I will see on this
    planet.

    What the council of five has going for them sounds nice. Not exactly
    what I'm hoping to find and/or create, but close. I think that, in an
    ideal world, there are lots of different living scenarios that better
    suit certain types of people. For instance, in your situation, given
    the same costs one way or the other, even single and without child,
    I'd have opted for the co-living arrangement. But that's just how I
    am. While “saving money” is one aspect of what I'm trying to build
    here, it's not the most important goal.

    On a more personal note, I believe that of all the cities on all of
    Texas, Austin is the closest thing to perfect for me. And I've now
    renewed my goal to get that way thanks to some help from some like
    minded friends already living there. I have some stuff to work out
    with my baby momma but, I'm hopeful we may soon be “neighbors”. :)

  • http://twitter.com/mojoquix amanda

    I definitely agree that in an ideal world, there would be different types of living arrangements to suit different people. Right now, I think we're mostly all pressured into a certain model that doesn't work for everyone. People have different needs and values. I'm personally kind of inclined to be a loner, and Stephen is even more so, so living communally in the same dwelling with others doesn't work for us. But I think I would like some kind of more communal arrangement involving separate dwellings — really, just a very close knit neighborhood of people who get along and care about each other, maybe with some regular neighborhood meals and something like a shared garden. Right now, my neighborhood is like that to a degree — we know each other and generally look out for each other, though we don't spend a ton of time together and the only big neighborhood event is a yearly Memorial Day party.

    Austin really is the best place in Texas. The only downside to Austin is that it's a small city but lots of people want to live here. So, it doesn't have the job infrastructure to support all the people who want to live here. I was really worried I'd have to move after law school because the legal community here just isn't very large — most legal work in Texas is in Dallas and Houston. But thankfully, I lucked out and found my job, so I didn't have to. Also, the real estate is the most expensive in Texas. But it's worth it for me.

  • http://revjim.net/ Daniel

    Yeah. High Real Estate plus low Job Availability equals High Barrier to Entry.

    But I'm going to give it a shot.

    There are some interesting neighborhoods in DFW too. So I can fall
    back if I need to.